{"id":39,"date":"2009-07-15T06:20:40","date_gmt":"2009-07-15T14:20:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bhavyatechnologies.com\/blog\/?p=39"},"modified":"2009-08-09T04:16:04","modified_gmt":"2009-08-09T12:16:04","slug":"web-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bhavyatechnologies.com\/blog\/web-20\/","title":{"rendered":"Web 2.0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Does &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; mean anything?  Till recently I thought it didn&#8217;t,  but the truth turns out to be more complicated.  Originally, yes,  it was meaningless.  Now it seems to have acquired a meaning.  And  yet those who dislike the term are probably right, because if it  means what I think it does, we don&#8217;t need it.<\/p>\n<p>I first heard the phrase &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; in the name of the Web 2.0  conference in 2004.  At the time it was supposed to mean using &#8220;the  web as a platform,&#8221; which I took to refer to web-based applications.<\/p>\n<p>So I was surprised at a conference this summer when Tim O&#8217;Reilly  led a session intended to figure out a definition of &#8220;Web 2.0.&#8221;  Didn&#8217;t it already mean using the web as a platform?  And if it  didn&#8217;t already mean something, why did we need the phrase at all?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Origins<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tim says the phrase &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/pub\/a\/oreilly\/tim\/news\/2005\/09\/30\/what-is-web-20.html\" target=\"_blank\">arose<\/a> in &#8220;a brainstorming session between  O&#8217;Reilly and Medialive International.&#8221; What is Medialive International?  &#8220;Producers of technology tradeshows and conferences,&#8221; according to  their site.  So presumably that&#8217;s what this brainstorming session  was about.  O&#8217;Reilly wanted to organize a conference about the web,  and they were wondering what to call it.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think there was any deliberate plan to suggest there was a  new <em>version<\/em> of the web.  They just wanted to make the point  that the web mattered again.  It was a kind of semantic deficit  spending: they knew new things were coming, and the &#8220;2.0&#8221; referred  to whatever those might turn out to be.<\/p>\n<p>And they were right.  New things were coming.  But the new version  number led to some awkwardness in the short term.  In the process  of developing the pitch for the first conference, someone must have  decided they&#8217;d better take a stab at explaining what that &#8220;2.0&#8221;  referred to.  Whatever it meant, &#8220;the web as a platform&#8221; was at  least not too constricting.<\/p>\n<p>The story about &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; meaning the web as a platform didn&#8217;t live  much past the first conference.  By the second conference, what  &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; seemed to mean was something about democracy.  At least,  it did when people wrote about it online.  The conference itself  didn&#8217;t seem very grassroots.  It cost $2800, so the only people who  could afford to go were VCs and people from big companies.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, oddly enough, Ryan Singel&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/news\/technology\/0,1282,69114,00.html\" target=\"_blank\">article<\/a> about the conference in <em>Wired News<\/em> spoke of &#8220;throngs of  geeks.&#8221;  When a friend of mine asked Ryan about this, it was news  to him.  He said he&#8217;d originally written something like &#8220;throngs  of VCs and biz dev guys&#8221; but had later shortened it just to &#8220;throngs,&#8221;  and that this must have in turn been expanded by the editors into  &#8220;throngs of geeks.&#8221;  After all, a Web 2.0 conference would presumably  be full of geeks, right?<\/p>\n<p>Well, no.  There were about 7.  Even Tim O&#8217;Reilly was wearing a     suit, a sight so alien I couldn&#8217;t parse it at first.  I saw  him walk by and said to one of the O&#8217;Reilly people &#8220;that guy looks  just like Tim.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s Tim.  He bought a suit.&#8221;  I ran after him, and sure enough, it was.  He explained that he&#8217;d  just bought it in Thailand.<\/p>\n<p>The 2005 Web 2.0 conference reminded me of Internet trade shows  during the Bubble, full of prowling VCs looking for the next hot  startup.  There was that same odd atmosphere created by a large    number of people determined not to miss out.  Miss out on what?  They didn&#8217;t know.  Whatever was going to happen\u2014whatever Web 2.0  turned out to be.<\/p>\n<p>I wouldn&#8217;t quite call it &#8220;Bubble 2.0&#8221; just because VCs are eager  to invest again.  The Internet is a genuinely big deal.  The bust  was as much an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/bubble.html\" target=\"_blank\">overreaction<\/a> as  the boom.  It&#8217;s to be expected that once we started to pull out of  the bust, there would be a lot of growth in this area, just as there  was in the industries that spiked the sharpest before the Depression.<\/p>\n<p>The reason this won&#8217;t turn into a second Bubble is that the IPO  market is gone. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/startupfunding.html\" target=\"_blank\">Venture investors<\/a> are driven by exit strategies.  The reason they were funding all    those laughable startups during the late 90s was that they hoped  to sell them to gullible retail investors; they hoped to be laughing  all the way to the bank.  Now that route is closed.  Now the default  exit strategy is to get bought, and acquirers are less prone to  irrational exuberance than IPO investors.  The closest you&#8217;ll get   to Bubble valuations is Rupert Murdoch paying $580 million for     Myspace.  That&#8217;s only off by a factor of 10 or so.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Ajax<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Does &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; mean anything more than the name of a conference  yet?  I don&#8217;t like to admit it, but it&#8217;s starting to.  When people  say &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; now, I have some idea what they mean.  And the fact  that I both despise the phrase and understand it is the surest proof  that it has started to mean something.<\/p>\n<p>One ingredient of its meaning is certainly Ajax, which I can still  only just bear to use without scare quotes.  Basically, what &#8220;Ajax&#8221;  means is &#8220;Javascript now works.&#8221;  And that in turn means that  web-based applications can now be made to work much more like desktop  ones.<\/p>\n<p>As you read this, a whole new <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/public\/article\/SB113098635587487074.html?mod=todays_free_feature\" target=\"_blank\">generation<\/a> of software is being written to take advantage of Ajax.  There  hasn&#8217;t been such a wave of new applications since microcomputers  first appeared.  Even Microsoft sees it, but it&#8217;s too late for them  to do anything more than <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hypercamp.org\/2005\/11\/09\" target=\"_blank\">leak<\/a> &#8220;internal&#8221;    documents designed to give the impression they&#8217;re on top of this  new trend.<\/p>\n<p>In fact the new generation of software is being written way too  fast for Microsoft even to channel it, let alone write their own  in house.  Their only hope now is to buy all the best Ajax startups  before Google does.  And even that&#8217;s going to be hard, because  Google has as big a head start in buying microstartups as it did  in search a few years ago.  After all, Google Maps, the canonical  Ajax application, was the result of a startup they <a href=\"http:\/\/googlemapsmania.blogspot.com\/2005\/10\/google-maps-lead-engineer-gazes-into.html\" target=\"_blank\">bought<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So ironically the original description of the Web 2.0 conference  turned out to be partially right: web-based applications are a big  component of Web 2.0.  But I&#8217;m convinced they got this right by   accident.  The Ajax boom didn&#8217;t start till early 2005, when Google  Maps appeared and the term &#8220;Ajax&#8221; was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adaptivepath.com\/publications\/essays\/archives\/000385.php\" target=\"_blank\">coined<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Democracy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The second big element of Web 2.0 is democracy.  We now have several  examples to prove that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/opensource.html\" target=\"_blank\">amateurs<\/a> can     surpass professionals, when they have the right kind of system to   channel their efforts. <a href=\"http:\/\/wikipedia.org\" target=\"_blank\">Wikipedia<\/a> may be the most famous.  Experts have given Wikipedia middling  reviews, but they miss the critical point: it&#8217;s good enough.  And     it&#8217;s free, which means people actually read it.  On the web, articles  you have to pay for might as well not exist.  Even if you were      willing to pay to read them yourself, you can&#8217;t link to them.      They&#8217;re not part of the conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Another place democracy seems to win is in deciding what counts as  news.  I never look at any news site now except <a href=\"http:\/\/reddit.com\" target=\"_blank\">Reddit<\/a>.     I know if something major  happens, or someone writes a particularly interesting article, it     will show up there.  Why bother checking the front page of any  specific paper or magazine?  Reddit&#8217;s like an RSS feed for the whole  web, with a filter for quality.  Similar sites include <a href=\"http:\/\/digg.com\" target=\"_blank\">Digg<\/a>, a technology news site that&#8217;s  rapidly approaching Slashdot in popularity, and <a href=\"http:\/\/del.icio.us\" target=\"_blank\">del.icio.us<\/a>, the collaborative  bookmarking network that set off the &#8220;tagging&#8221; movement.  And whereas  Wikipedia&#8217;s main appeal is that it&#8217;s good enough and free, these  sites suggest that voters do a significantly better job than human  editors.<\/p>\n<p>The most dramatic example of Web 2.0 democracy is not in the selection  of ideas, but their production.<br \/>\n<!-- Usage has not yet evolved to reflect  this: the only phrases we have to describe the phenomenon are ones   that implicitly assume the superiority of the old order, like  \"user-generated content,\" or \"blogging\" (neutral in itself, but   revealingly condescending in its over-broad use).  --><br \/>\nI&#8217;ve noticed for a while that the stuff I read on individual people&#8217;s  sites is as good as or better than the stuff I read in newspapers  and magazines.  And now I have independent evidence: the top links  on Reddit are generally links to individual people&#8217;s sites rather    than to magazine articles or news stories.<\/p>\n<p>My experience of writing  for magazines suggests an explanation.  Editors.  They control the  topics you can write about, and they can generally rewrite whatever  you produce.  The result is to damp extremes.  Editing yields 95th  percentile writing\u201495% of articles are improved by it, but 5% are  dragged down.  5% of the time you get &#8220;throngs of geeks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>On the web, people can publish whatever they want.  Nearly all of  it falls short of the editor-damped writing in print publications.  But the pool of writers is very, very large.  If it&#8217;s large enough,  the lack of damping means the best writing online should surpass    the best in print. And now that the web has evolved mechanisms  for selecting good stuff, the web wins net.  Selection beats damping,  for the same reason market economies beat centrally planned ones.<\/p>\n<p>Even the startups are different this time around.  They are to the    startups of the Bubble what bloggers are to the print media.  During  the Bubble, a startup meant a company headed by an MBA that was     blowing through several million dollars of VC money to &#8220;get big  fast&#8221; in the most literal sense.  Now it means a smaller, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/hiring.html\" target=\"_blank\">younger<\/a>, more technical group that just        decided to make something great.  They&#8217;ll decide later if they want    to raise VC-scale funding, and if they take it, they&#8217;ll take it on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/vcsqueeze.html\" target=\"_blank\">their terms<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. Don&#8217;t Maltreat Users<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think everyone would agree that democracy and Ajax are elements  of &#8220;Web 2.0.&#8221;  I also see a third: not to maltreat users.  During  the Bubble a lot of popular sites were quite high-handed with users.  And not just in obvious ways, like making them register, or subjecting  them to annoying ads.  The very design of the average site in the     late 90s was an abuse.  Many of the most popular sites were loaded  with obtrusive branding that made them slow to load and sent the  user the message: this is our site, not yours.  (There&#8217;s a physical  analog in the Intel and Microsoft <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/designedforwindows.html\" target=\"_blank\">stickers<\/a> that come on some  laptops.)<\/p>\n<p>I think the root of the problem was that sites felt they were giving  something away for free, and till recently a company giving anything  away for free could be pretty high-handed about it.  Sometimes it  reached the point of economic sadism: site owners assumed that the  more pain they caused the user, the more benefit it must be to them.    The most dramatic remnant of this model may be at salon.com, where     you can read the beginning of a story, but to get the rest you have  sit through a <em>movie<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>At Y Combinator we advise all the startups we fund never to lord  it over users.  Never make users register, unless you need to in  order to store something for them.  If you do make users register,     never make them wait for a confirmation link in an email; in fact,  don&#8217;t even ask for their email address unless you need it for some  reason.  Don&#8217;t ask them any unnecessary questions.  Never send them  email unless they explicitly ask for it.  Never frame pages you  link to, or open them in new windows.  If you have a free version   and a pay version, don&#8217;t make the free version too restricted.  And  if you find yourself asking &#8220;should we allow users to do x?&#8221; just   answer &#8220;yes&#8221; whenever you&#8217;re unsure.  Err on the side of generosity.<\/p>\n<p>In <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/start.html\" target=\"_blank\">How to Start a Startup<\/a> I advised startups  never to let anyone fly under them, meaning never to let any other  company offer a cheaper, easier solution.  Another way to fly low   is to give users more power.  Let users do what they want.  If you   don&#8217;t and a competitor does, you&#8217;re in trouble.<\/p>\n<p>iTunes is Web 2.0ish in this sense.  Finally you can buy individual  songs instead of having to buy whole albums.  The recording industry  hated the idea and resisted it as long as possible.  But it was  obvious what users wanted, so Apple flew under the labels.  Though really it might be better to describe iTunes as Web 1.5.       Web 2.0 applied to music would probably mean individual bands giving  away DRMless songs for free.<\/p>\n<p>The ultimate way to be nice to users is to give them something for  free that competitors charge for.  During the 90s a lot of people     probably thought we&#8217;d have some working system for micropayments       by now.  In fact things have gone in the other direction.  The most     successful sites are the ones that figure out new ways to give stuff  away for free.  Craigslist has largely destroyed the classified ad  sites of the 90s, and OkCupid looks likely to do the same to the  previous generation of dating sites.<\/p>\n<p>Serving web pages is very, very cheap.  If you can make even a     fraction of a cent per page view, you can make a profit.  And  technology for targeting ads continues to improve.  I wouldn&#8217;t be  surprised if ten years from now eBay had been supplanted by an        ad-supported freeBay (or, more likely, gBay).<\/p>\n<p>Odd as it might sound, we tell startups that they should try to  make as little money as possible.  If you can figure out a way to  turn a billion dollar industry into a fifty million dollar industry,  so much the better, if all fifty million go to you.  Though indeed,  making things cheaper often turns out to generate more money in the  end, just as automating things often turns out to generate more  jobs.<\/p>\n<p>The ultimate target is Microsoft.  What a bang that balloon is going  to make when someone pops it by offering a free web-based alternative   to MS Office. Who will?  Google?  They seem to be taking their  time.  I suspect the pin will be wielded by a couple of 20 year old  hackers who are too naive to be intimidated by the idea.  (How hard  can it be?)<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Common Thread<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ajax, democracy, and not dissing users.  What do they all have in    common?  I didn&#8217;t realize they had anything in common till recently,  which is one of the reasons I disliked the term &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; so much.  It seemed that it was being used as a label for whatever happened  to be new\u2014that it didn&#8217;t predict anything.<\/p>\n<p>But there is a common thread.  Web 2.0 means using the web the way  it&#8217;s meant to be used.  The &#8220;trends&#8221; we&#8217;re seeing now are simply  the inherent nature of the web emerging from under the broken models  that got imposed on it during the Bubble.<\/p>\n<p>I realized this when I read an<br \/>\n<!-- as-yet unpublished--><br \/>\ninterview with  Joe Kraus, the co-founder of Excite.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> Excite really never got the business model right at all.  We fell     into the classic problem of how when a new medium comes out it    adopts the practices, the content, the business models of the old    medium which fails, and then the more appropriate models get    figured out. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It may have seemed as if not much was happening during the years  after the Bubble burst.  But in retrospect, something was happening:  the web was finding its natural angle of repose.  The democracy   component, for example\u2014that&#8217;s not an innovation, in the sense of  something someone made happen.  That&#8217;s what the web naturally tends  to produce.<\/p>\n<p>Ditto for the idea of delivering desktop-like applications over the  web.  That idea is almost as old as the web.  But the first time      around it was co-opted by Sun, and we got Java applets.  Java has  since been remade into a generic replacement for C++, but in 1996  the story about Java was that it represented a new model of software.  Instead of desktop applications, you&#8217;d run Java &#8220;applets&#8221; delivered  from a server.<\/p>\n<p>This plan collapsed under its own weight. Microsoft helped kill it,  but it would have died anyway.  There was no uptake among hackers.  When you find <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/submarine.html\" target=\"_blank\">PR firms<\/a> promoting  something as the next development platform, you can be sure it&#8217;s  not.  If it were, you wouldn&#8217;t need PR firms to tell you, because     hackers would already be writing stuff on top of it, the way sites      like <a href=\"http:\/\/busmonster.com\">Busmonster<\/a> used Google Maps as a  platform before Google even meant it to be one.<\/p>\n<p>The proof that Ajax is the next hot platform is that thousands of    hackers have spontaneously started building things on top  of it.  Mikey likes it.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s another thing all three components of Web 2.0 have in common.  Here&#8217;s a clue.  Suppose you approached investors with the following  idea for a Web 2.0 startup:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> Sites like del.icio.us and flickr allow users to &#8220;tag&#8221; content    with descriptive tokens.  But there is also huge source of <em>implicit<\/em> tags that they ignore: the text within web links.    Moreover, these links represent a social network connecting the       individuals and organizations who created the pages, and by using    graph theory we can compute from this network an estimate of the    reputation of each member.  We plan to mine the web for these     implicit tags, and use them together with the reputation hierarchy    they embody to enhance web searches. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>How long do you think it would take them on average to realize that  it was a description of Google?<\/p>\n<p>  Google was a pioneer in all three components of Web 2.0: their core  business sounds crushingly hip when described in Web 2.0 terms,   &#8220;Don&#8217;t maltreat users&#8221; is a subset of &#8220;Don&#8217;t be evil,&#8221; and of course  Google set off the whole Ajax boom with Google Maps.<\/p>\n<p>Web 2.0 means using the web as it was meant to be used, and Google  does.  That&#8217;s their secret.<br \/>\n<!-- The web naturally has a certain grain,  and Google is aligned with it.  That's why their success seems so     effortless.--><br \/>\nThey&#8217;re sailing with the wind, instead of sitting    becalmed praying for a business model, like the print media, or     trying to tack upwind by suing their customers, like Microsoft and   the record labels.<\/p>\n<p>Google doesn&#8217;t try to force things to happen their way.  They try     to figure out what&#8217;s going to happen, and arrange to be standing   there when it does.  That&#8217;s the way to approach technology\u2014and   as business includes an ever larger technological component, the  right way to do business.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that Google is a &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; company shows that, while  meaningful, the term is also rather bogus.  It&#8217;s like the word  &#8220;allopathic.&#8221;  It just means doing things right, and it&#8217;s a bad     sign when you have a special word for that.<\/p>\n<h3>Sources:<\/h3>\n<ol>\n<li>http:\/\/www.paulgraham.com\/web20.html<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; mean anything? Till recently I thought it didn&#8217;t, but the truth turns out to be more complicated. Originally, yes, it was meaningless. Now it seems to have acquired a meaning. 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